Jobseekers’ Work Experience: a bad deal
Post Categories: DWP • Flexible New Deal • New Deal • Welfare Reform • unemployment
Tags: Flexible New Deal, New Deal, work experience, work experience placements, work placements
Flexible New Deal scandal reports on how jobseekers on the Flexible New Deal are getting fucked over for doing more hours of work per week than on New Deal and getting between 10p more and £3 less than 12 years ago at the beginning of New Deal.
If I am correct the £15 bonus has been around since start of New Deal (say 1998)…
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Age
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“Then” (New Deal in 1998)
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(with £15 bonus)
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“Now” (Flexible New Deal in 2010)
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Difference
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18 – 24
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£39.85
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£54.85
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£51.85
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-£3
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25+
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£50.35
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£65.35
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£65.45
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10p
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Looking at the figures… The younger age payments are better off 12 years ago on New Deal!
In 1999 when National Minimum Wage came into effect the 22+ rate was £3.60 as of October this year it will be £5.93
1999/1998: 30 hours @ £3.60 = £108 | £65.35
> Oct 2010: 30 hours @ £5.93 = £177 | £65.45
An increase of £69 (63%) via National Minimum Wage increases in this period or just 10p via jobseeker “work experience” benefit.
Lets not upset the under 25s as they are actually £3 worse off than 12 years ago while doing an extra days work.
So pre-workfare jobseekers are generally moaning about doing at least 4 weeks of fulltime work placement on Flexible New Deal without an extra £15 per week… and for below National Minimum Wage… but actually don’t they have a point?
For example, National Minimum Wage has increased around 63% over the last 12 years – yet even though doing an extra days work a week the older age range of jobseekers (25+) are only 10p better off than doing a days less work a week 12 years ago.
For the younger age range of jobseekers (18 > 24) are actually £3 worse off than on New Deal 12 years ago.
I do not need to explain over the last 12 years how much the cost of living has increased… food, housing, travel costs (these are reimbursed but weekly … not paid upfront) etc.
Perhaps there is a case against the withdrawal of the £15 additional allowance. Workfare is a longer period for the same money with the same effect. I welcome your comments!!
Link Summary
- Workfare: Work for Your Benefit Sanctions exposed
- New Labour POLICY requirements: Are they bullshit or not?
- New Deal 13 week Course, Skills Training Ltd, Hounslow
- Too much legislation for DWP and Jobcentre Plus?
- Flexible New Deal: TNG & YMCA Training approve someone with serious mental health issues to Dencora House
- Where is the Flexible New Deal Ombudsman?
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new deal has always been the same,some work more hours then others’i found i was doing more hours then i should have been thanks to the “provider” and the shop manager colluding,if i remember back it was supposed to be 10am to 4pm i was in at 9 some started later.
that new deal was (is) bloody useless,they wont have a bad word said against it.you cannot substitute a proper job and a living wage and expect that to work.the problem is they view people as lazy (that will never change) blaming the individual is by far the easiest option.
poor pay/poor prospects/a care less attitude,money counts priority before well being of the workforce leads to disaster.
When I got my 6-month work placement on New Deal in early 1999 I was paid more than minimum wage plus a shift allowance and overtime. This was for a big public organisation.
was referred for 13 weeks work experience ( i asked to go on this to get up to date experience) been told i have to sign on as normal and go to a centre for 4 hours every week for dedicated job search. I didn’t think i had to do both. ( Place i am working is not too impressed with this) I take a list with me everytime i sign on to prove i have been applying for jobs. Do i have to do both.
Is this New Deal?
If so you are not required to sign on every 2 weeks – you would be signed on in your absence.
my advisor at first thought i didn’t have to sign on, she made a call and was told because new deal was changing i had to sign on, on monday 26th april when i should have started work experience it fell through, i got another placement today and was told have to sign on and do dedicated 4 hour job search at a centre. do i need to do this 4 hour search as i have own computer and prove everytime i sign on that i have applied for jobs., also would be better for me if i could do work experience that day.
can anyone answer my question am i on new deal or flexible new deal. i was referred under the new deal and if it is fnd can i go for a 4 week work trial when i have finished
Lisa: How many hours a week is your placement?
I can appreciate you wanting to get up-to-date work experience but be careful they are not taking advantage of you
if i have to do 4 hours dedicated job search my hours will be 27 3/4 per week. Its the fact that the placement that fell through yesterday i didn’t have to do it. I get a new placement today and i have to do it. Thanks for replying.
My provider thinks I should do a work placement but I said I’d rather carry on with normal job search for now. They said they’re going to have to telephone the job centre.
Will I be signed off or sanctioned?. If I’m signed off can I re-claim?.
everything sorted out today, my new deal lone parent advisors were great, better than job advisor.